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Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kinky.business/@sexpolykink" class="u-url mention">@<span>sexpolykink</span></a></span> Yes!</p><p>More lightweight backends you should look at: <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> a fork of <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> </p><p>I myself run a single-user <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> instance, challenging but learned a lot in the process 👌</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.ayco.io/@ayo" class="u-url mention">@<span>ayo</span></a></span> Yeah, not with Mastodon. I think <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> and <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> work like that, they don&#39;t download remote assets.</p><p>But it&#39;s not a great architecture either, because all instances act as CDN for you.</p><p>Granted it takes a lot of space on your instance but if a remove instance goes down, is not available or just slow you don&#39;t notice it.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@janboddez" class="u-url mention">@<span>janboddez</span></a></span> I think other backends like <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> or <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> do not download assets to your local instance. They just hotlink to the source instance.</p><p>Unsure about downloading posts (not media) from not followed accounts.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.overminddl1.com/profile/overminddl1" class="u-url mention">@<span>overminddl1</span></a></span> I think the reason was particularly because <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> does not download assets to the server. Meaning the other instances act as a CDN for pleroma servers. This model is unsustainable for large instances.</p><p>When you use Mastodon, you get all the assets downloaded and served from your instance.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.overminddl1.com/profile/overminddl1" class="u-url mention">@<span>overminddl1</span></a></span> That&#39;s sad. I read that some admins ban based on the backend used, like if you use <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> you get instant ban</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@mike_k" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike_k</span></a></span> 💜 You were an inspiration to me, I remember discussing a lot about <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> etc.</p><p>Looking forward to the blog post.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.kwatra.me/@kabir" class="u-url mention">@<span>kabir</span></a></span> Nice! :blobcatthumbsup: </p><p>Yeah I saw those frontends too but none had the cool Mastodon UI. I guess it doesn&#39;t matter if you use a native app.</p><p>If you&#39;re going to give <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> a try maybe check <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> which I think is a little bit more active.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.kwatra.me/@kabir" class="u-url mention">@<span>kabir</span></a></span> <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> last time I checked looked a bit unmatained, there was no column frontend UI (which I love).</p><p>To &quot;solve&quot; the storage issue I eneded up moving the assets to a super cheap S3 object storage. It&#39;s less than 1$ a month</p><p>➡️ <a href="https://ricard.dev/scaling-mastodon-moving-media-assets-to-object-storage/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ricard.dev/scaling-mastodon-mo</span><span class="invisible">ving-media-assets-to-object-storage/</span></a></p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.starnix.network/@Nyoelle" class="u-url mention">@<span>Nyoelle</span></a></span> What alternative is as well mantained? <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> ? <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> ?</p><p>I love the multi column web app in Mastodon, not sure if others have such thing.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.knight.fyi/@matt" class="u-url mention">@<span>matt</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://frederiksberg.social/@nobodyknows" class="u-url mention">@<span>nobodyknows</span></a></span> that&#39;s how <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> does it. They don&#39;t store remote assets.</p><p>On one side big instances would suffer as being CDN for all smaller instances. The same way, a smaller instance with popular accounts would suffer.</p><p>It could also be if those servers were slow serving you or your users would have a degraded experience. That&#39;s one of the reasons, I think, Mastodon chose the architecture of storing everything locally.</p><p>Just guessing.</p>
Ricard Torres<p>@johanbove@indieweb.social how was it? Did it work?</p><p>I wanted to migrate to <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> but it&#39;s not actively maintained it seems 😔</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://turnip.solutions/@mike" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike</span></a></span> plot twist! 😁 Thank you for sharing, Mike.</p><p>In the last week I&#39;ve managed to have my <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> instance more under control. So I&#39;ve lost a little the need of switching to <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a></p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://turnip.solutions/@mike" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike</span></a></span> wait so there&#39;s a &quot;better&quot; <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> called <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Akkoma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Akkoma</span></a> </p><p>Are you changing your plan or are you moving forward with Pleroma?</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral" class="u-url mention">@<span>aral</span></a></span> What disk usage are we talking about here?</p><p>Really curious. Self-hosting my single-user instance and the space usage is not trivial.</p><p>Had I known I would&#39;ve gone with <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> probably.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@jbinto" class="u-url mention">@<span>jbinto</span></a></span> The only thing to consider is if you really need <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> or if you can go with <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> </p><p>I am now too invested to move but Pleroma even if the UI is not as great is very lightweight. </p><p>Keeping Mastodon lean and not taking the whole disk is not trivial. Wrote about this today: <a href="https://ricard.dev/improving-mastodons-disk-usage/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ricard.dev/improving-mastodons</span><span class="invisible">-disk-usage/</span></a></p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@jbinto" class="u-url mention">@<span>jbinto</span></a></span> thanks for the follow and welcome back!</p><p>Can I take this opportunity to encourage you to migrate to a smaller Mastodon instance, self host your own or start a <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> server?</p><p>It&#39;s way more fun 😁</p>
Ricard Torres<p>@jan@geekcompass.com I just don&#39;t get it. We have built-in process for status and media, but not avatars+headers. </p><p>So I think there&#39;s no other way around this but to move to <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a></p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://turnip.solutions/@mike" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike</span></a></span> That&#39;s awesome Mike!</p><p>I&#39;d love to follow up on your progress 🙏 </p><p>My naive thought was that if you create a <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> instance with the same account name and domain name, that the Mastodon followers wouldn&#39;t notice the difference. Maybe that&#39;s wishful thinking.</p><p>I don&#39;t mind nuking my Mastodon instance and starting a clean Pleroma from scratch (no need for migration scripts). My only concern is keeping the followers.</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://turnip.solutions/@mike" class="u-url mention">@<span>mike</span></a></span> I am in the exact same boat 💯 </p><p>I haven&#39;t been able to find a nice tutorial on how to move from <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> to <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> </p><p>Not sure if it&#39;s feasible to make it transparent for followers. Rather than starting a &quot;new account&quot;.</p><p>I want to keep my me same handle and domain, of course.</p><p>Ideas?</p>
Ricard Torres<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pleroma.jamesp.org/users/james" class="u-url mention">@<span>james</span></a></span> would you know if it&#39;s feasible to replace a Mastodon instance with <a href="https://ricard.social/tags/Pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pleroma</span></a> (in the same server, same domain)</p><p>Having a hard time findings any docs or blog posts</p>
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